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BLueSS
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[center][size=16pt][b]Acme Bowling and Billiards[/b][/size] [url=http://www.acmebowl.com/]http://www.acmebowl.com/[/url] 100 Andover Park West Tukwila, WA 98188 [/center]
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Iori241
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July 31, 2014, 10:31:29 PM
#3176
rhythm game players are the most entitled motherfuckers on the planet, not even your property but the presumption is that you can make it dangerous for others you guys are so lucky to have bill who's willing to deal with your shit. literally a lawsuit waiting to happen. bluess is being incredibly sensible here.
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cwkarma123
July 31, 2014, 11:03:05 PM
#3177
Quote from: Iori241 on July 31, 2014, 10:31:29 PM
rhythm game players are the most entitled motherfuckers on the planet, not even your property but the presumption is that you can make it dangerous for others you guys are so lucky to have bill who's willing to deal with your shit. literally a lawsuit waiting to happen. bluess is being incredibly sensible here.
I'm pretty sure this issue was resolved in earlier posts, but in case you need a reminder...
We share the space and we understand that using powder can make the stage slippery for some players. We take full responsibility of using the powder and will maintain the stages cleanliness. As I mentioned in an earlier post, we will take extra measures to keep the stage fully clear of powder when we are not using it.
I am fully aware that the machine is not my property but I do have consent from Bill to work on the stage and all of us who pay to play are entitled to play the way we desire and we desire to use powder.
We are in 100% agreement with BLueSS about the entire situation, but this is only 1 instance this has happened to us. We've always cleaned the stage before we leave for those to come after us. Remember that we aren't the only players in our community to use powder, there are many others. Hopefully, the other players read this and make sure to keep the stage clean for people as well.
With that said, we will make sure to keep the stage powder free for you Iori241, since you go to ACME so frequently to notice the powder.
Also, if you have an issue with us using powder, I'd suggest you speak to Bill directly. But as far as I'm concerned, my girlfriend and I do our part to keep the stage in an impeccable state for everyone to enjoy.
Thanks
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Last Edit: July 31, 2014, 11:06:56 PM by APHR
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OrangeChicken
July 31, 2014, 11:29:20 PM
#3178
@APHR, word of advice:
don't respond if he's trying to pick a bone with you
you've already resolved this with BlueSS
Laura
FILTHY CASUAL
35
Bellevue, WA
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August 01, 2014, 12:08:45 PM
#3179
Quote from: Gerrak on July 30, 2014, 07:33:03 PM
Acme won't allow the ITG machine in the entrance to the arcade due to the noise. Also, the ITG/SN2 machines can't really be switched with the Typhoon machine, lest we be hit with basketballs more than we already are. We would need to completely rearrange the arcade to accommodate this change... Though I agree wholeheartedly that Supernova is hard to hear...
If it's easier logistically, a less optimal but still workable solution might be to do some combination of turning the volume on ITG very slightly down and turning the volume on Supernova very slightly up. I don't want ITG to be too quiet or to blow out Supernova's speakers, but it's really obvious that the machine volumes are totally different, and maybe we can find a sweet spot where you can hear whichever game you're playing fine without drowning the other game out?
Iori241
BANNED
August 01, 2014, 12:34:42 PM
#3180
Quote from: APHR on July 31, 2014, 11:03:05 PM
I'm pretty sure this issue was resolved in earlier posts, but in case you need a reminder...
We share the space and we understand that using powder can make the stage slippery for some players. We take full responsibility of using the powder and will maintain the stages cleanliness. As I mentioned in an earlier post, we will take extra measures to keep the stage fully clear of powder when we are not using it.
what about shit that slips into pads
Quote from: APHR on July 31, 2014, 11:03:05 PM
I am fully aware that the machine is not my property but I do have consent from Bill to work on the stage and all of us who pay to play are entitled to play the way we desire and we desire to use powder.
just because you pay to play something doesn't mean you are entitled to play how you want. i've never heard of any good player using powder. are you heel toeing correctly
Quote from: APHR on July 31, 2014, 11:03:05 PM
We are in 100% agreement with BLueSS about the entire situation, but this is only 1 instance this has happened to us. We've always cleaned the stage before we leave for those to come after us. Remember that we aren't the only players in our community to use powder, there are many others. Hopefully, the other players read this and make sure to keep the stage clean for people as well.
glad u have the situation %100 under control, especially
Quote from: APHR on July 31, 2014, 11:03:05 PM
With that said, we will make sure to keep the stage powder free for you Iori241, since you go to ACME so frequently to notice the powder.
nice ad hominem :p
Kyrandian
More Awesome Than The Day Is Long
35
Portland, Oregon
August 01, 2014, 12:58:56 PM
#3181
Quote from: APHR on July 31, 2014, 09:56:17 AM
Also, baby powder almost becomes a necessity when playing charts that require foot speed or endurance. For instance, 174 BPM for 7:30mins without powder is ludicrous!
Level up.
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OrangeChicken
August 01, 2014, 01:23:59 PM
#3182
wat
cwkarma123
August 01, 2014, 04:34:22 PM
#3183
@Iori241,
We vacuum out the inside of the panels as needed to make sure no powder builds up inside. Of course, at the moment we are in need of a cleaning.
There are plenty of amazing players that use powder. Flash, Mad Matt, Dark Xuxa, Parrax, Stevereen, and Archi for example are excellent players that utilizes powder! Also, you are only good at heel-toe if you are Calimist, none other can compare.
Quote from: Iori241 on August 01, 2014, 12:34:42 PM
nice ad hominem :p
Thank you.
OrangeChicken
August 01, 2014, 05:18:45 PM
#3184
Quote from: APHR on August 01, 2014, 04:34:22 PM
@Iori241,
We vacuum out the inside of the panels as needed to make sure no powder builds up inside. Of course, at the moment we are in need of a cleaning.
There are plenty of amazing players that use powder. Flash, Mad Matt, Dark Xuxa, Parrax, Stevereen, and Archi for example are excellent players that utilizes powder! Also, you are only good at heel-toe if you are Calimist, none other can compare.
Thank you.
I'd be happy to help out with cleaning the pads, if needs be, APHR. After all, as a community, we share the pads and should care for it together
[insert cliche friendship music here]
cwkarma123
August 01, 2014, 05:34:13 PM
#3185
Quote from: KLOC (Lil Kevin) on August 01, 2014, 05:18:45 PM
I'd be happy to help out with cleaning the pads, if needs be, APHR. After all, as a community, we share the pads and should care for it together
[insert cliche friendship music here]
T^T
FRIENDSHIP!
Dr.Z
doin' work
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Lynnwood
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August 01, 2014, 06:56:56 PM
#3186
Quote from: APHR on August 01, 2014, 05:34:13 PM
T^T
FRIENDSHIP!
T .T It's a beautiful thing, when gamers Friendship instead of Fatality
cwkarma123
August 02, 2014, 10:31:48 AM
#3187
Quote from: Dr.Z on August 01, 2014, 06:56:56 PM
T .T It's a beautiful thing, when gamers Friendship instead of Fatality
FINISH HIM!
OrangeChicken
August 02, 2014, 02:13:03 PM
#3188
what are we doing omfg
Ifc.NiNe
August 05, 2014, 10:23:15 PM
#3189
Quote from: APHR on August 01, 2014, 04:34:22 PM
! Also, you are only good at heel-toe if you are Calimist and that Jacob guy none other can compare.
>.>
<.<
AndyBurnsDDR
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August 05, 2014, 10:34:30 PM
#3190
Feel like dumping gasoline on an open flame lol
here is a photo after a session from one of the top players in the world.
BBH
August 05, 2014, 10:39:34 PM
#3191
Quote from: AndyBurnsDDR on August 05, 2014, 10:34:30 PM
Feel like dumping gasoline on an open flame lol
here is a photo after a session from one of the top players in the world.
lewd
Iori241
BANNED
August 05, 2014, 10:58:08 PM
#3192
Quote from: AndyBurnsDDR on August 05, 2014, 10:34:30 PM
Feel like dumping gasoline on an open flame lol
here is a photo after a session from one of the top players in the world.
i'm reporting you for personal attacks and trolling bro, it's over
OrangeChicken
August 05, 2014, 11:58:54 PM
#3193
Quote from: Ifc.NiNe on August 05, 2014, 10:23:15 PM
>.>
<.<
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN, DUDE?
DJ Yoshitaka
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Klamath Falls
August 06, 2014, 08:05:08 AM
#3194
That shits nasty
BLueSS
Super-Admin
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Seattle
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August 06, 2014, 09:58:50 AM
#3195
That pad is filthy.
Seriously, that pic needs a NSFW filter with what the player did to that pad. Gross!
Ifc.NiNe
August 06, 2014, 12:18:03 PM
#3196
Quote from: KLOC (Lil Kevin) on August 05, 2014, 11:58:54 PM
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN, DUDE?
out at sea and dealing with other matters that life brings along...
Looks like Brett's(Flash) pad after we played at his place getting ready for a tournament.
OrangeChicken
August 06, 2014, 01:06:21 PM
#3197
Quote from: BLueSS on August 06, 2014, 09:58:50 AM
That pad is filthy.
Seriously, that pic needs a NSFW filter with what the player did to that pad. Gross!
that pad had some sexuality violation... 2
Iori241
BANNED
August 07, 2014, 09:44:41 AM
#3198
Quote from: APHR on August 01, 2014, 04:34:22 PM
@Iori241,
We vacuum out the inside of the panels as needed to make sure no powder builds up inside. Of course, at the moment we are in need of a cleaning.
There are plenty of amazing players that use powder. Flash, Mad Matt, Dark Xuxa, Parrax, Stevereen, and Archi for example are excellent players that utilizes powder! Also, you are only good at heel-toe if you are Calimist, none other can compare.
Thank you.
i guess since things have cooled down a little and with new forum rules i should respond to this.
1) good pads do not need regular maintenance/cleaning. if you look at avalon's pads in the edit heydays ala late 2004-05 (which were nowhere near GOOD per se, but i never got echos/boos) the regulars remaining (tim and maybe 2-3 others) were consistently doing fine on 10-13s (i got the vast majority of my aaas during this time as well) with no issue at all, and the sensors would not be rotated for weeks, if not months. i have never observed another thread on another board/heard of another machine that requires more maintenance than this one. not saying that the constant cleaning is the causation of the problems, but i almost feel as though the issue is misdiagnosed. i feel kevinddr really hit the nail on the head with
Quote from: KevinDDR on April 30, 2014, 02:11:28 PM
Pads should never need to be opened up multiple times a week. Something is being done wrong if this is the case.
2) none of the above players you mentioned are as good as iamchris4life or calimist, both which do not soil their machines with powder like the above pic. this is totally asides the point though: the funny thing is that i have no problem with powder on a private machine that is not placed in a public location, but this machine potentially has others who are not posting on this board playing on it. taking your approach "if you can't pass 16s your opinion doesn't matter" could potentially alienate the vast majority of casual/semicasual revenue that can be gained from the machine. if this were just your machine i wouldn't even be posting. i'd laugh, but not bother arguing this point.
i'd look a few pages back at the posts regarding doubles: you prioritizing your own needs over others is entitled and selfish, as well as not making sense from a business standpoint in which profit per square foot is paramount. this is all ignoring the potential liability issues and a few other points, but i'll allow you to respond to this first. even if everyone on this board agreed with what you were doing it would still be flawed in the same sense, having more people like your posts or echo your opinions (or getting my posts reported/deleted) is not going to change that.
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Last Edit: August 07, 2014, 10:11:44 AM by Iori241
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TMN (Taylor)
26
Federal Way, WA
August 07, 2014, 11:08:40 AM
#3199
Ok I have a question.
Quote from: Iori241 on August 07, 2014, 09:44:41 AM
the vast majority of casual/semicasual revenue that can be gained from the machine.
Are there any non-serious players (e.g. one time players) that use the itg machine? I've been there quite a few times in the last few months for both itg and non itg purposes but I have never seen anyone playing on the pads that could't pass a 12 (besides me). The SN2 and PIU I have seen being used at least semi-frequently by random visitors.
If I didn't know anything about dance games I would probably say that the supernova is in better condition because it doesnt look dusty and the arrows are pointing the right way (lol). Also, the ITG machine costs more and most people have no idea why. Maybe we could put up a poster that says the ITG machine is more sensitive and has a wider song choice, and thats why it costs more.
Of course all of this is assuming people want to play dance games anymore, which they don't
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cwkarma123
August 07, 2014, 11:31:51 AM
#3200
Quote from: Iori241 on August 07, 2014, 09:44:41 AM
i guess since things have cooled down a little and with new forum rules i should respond to this.
1) good pads do not need regular maintenance/cleaning. if you look at avalon's pads in the edit heydays ala late 2004-05 (which were nowhere near GOOD per se, but i never got echos/boos) the regulars remaining (tim and maybe 2-3 others) were consistently doing fine on 10-13s (i got the vast majority of my aaas during this time as well) with no issue at all, and the sensors would not be rotated for weeks, if not months. i have never observed another thread on another board/heard of another machine that requires more maintenance than this one. not saying that the constant cleaning is the causation of the problems, but i almost feel as though the issue is misdiagnosed. i feel kevinddr really hit the nail on the head with
2) none of the above players you mentioned are as good as iamchris4life or calimist, both which do not soil their machines with powder like the above pic. this is totally asides the point though: the funny thing is that i have no problem with powder on a private machine that is not placed in a public location, but this machine potentially has others who are not posting on this board playing on it. taking your approach "if you can't pass 16s your opinion doesn't matter" could potentially alienate the vast majority of casual/semicasual revenue that can be gained from the machine. if this were just your machine i wouldn't even be posting. i'd laugh, but not bother arguing this point.
i'd look a few pages back at the posts regarding doubles: you prioritizing your own needs over others is entitled and selfish, as well as not making sense from a business standpoint in which profit per square foot is paramount. this is all ignoring the potential liability issues and a few other points, but i'll allow you to respond to this first. even if everyone on this board agreed with what you were doing it would still be flawed in the same sense, having more people like your posts or echo your opinions (or getting my posts reported/deleted) is not going to change that.
I appreciate your comment and I understand your standpoint on these issues we have been speaking about for the past few months.
However, our decision to use powder and to keep the stage flushed will stand. I have many players in our community who enjoy the stage the way it is. The only reason I would ever change the stage is if Bill, the owner of the cabinet requests the change. So far, he has given me the green light to modify and to maintain the stage. Since I've been working on the stage, his techs don't need to frequent ACME to fix the issues as often.
Prior to modding, I remember calling Bill and his technicians at least 2 times a week to come fix a panel or two, but now I am doing all the work. If anything does go wrong I am first to be there and first to fix the issue to the best of my ability.
As far as players using powder, get over it. People are going to use it if they please, why does it even matter? The bottomline is, I shouldn't have to explain my use of powder or argue you about using powder, I do what I want when I'm playing ITG.
Can we stop bringing powder up as an issue? I mean, nothing you say is going to change my mind about using, nor is it going to change the other players minds from using it as well. You are wasting time arguing about powder, haha.
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