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Why Illusionz closed down (according to PA)
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BLueSS
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February 21, 2007, 07:32:34 PM
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metroid23
Marysville, Wa
February 21, 2007, 08:47:57 PM
#1
It's not even remotely funny and I hope they die in a fire. They act like they ever fucking
went
there or something.
Give me a break.
tada
February 21, 2007, 08:55:21 PM
#2
This is about as funny as /b/. I was expecting a more serious post.
Tyrgannus
Seattle (SPU)
February 21, 2007, 09:08:28 PM
#3
I'm amazed they know about Illusionz. No seriously, I am.
tada
February 21, 2007, 09:27:01 PM
#4
Quote from: "Tyrgannus"
I'm amazed they know about Illusionz. No seriously, I am.
PAX takes place in Bellevue, which is right next to Issaquah. I'm not surprised.
ancsik
DISTINCTLY LACKING IN PEANUT CONTENT
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February 21, 2007, 09:34:42 PM
#5
IZ provided the PAX machines (though the creators wouldn't be directly involved in rentals). Also, I believe I remember them having a news post way back involving IZ.
This comic isn't even remotely funny. Then again, the internet's been pretty boring for the last few months.
BLueSS
Super-Admin
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Seattle
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February 21, 2007, 09:50:50 PM
#6
I just posted it btw, never said it was funny or whatnot. :-P
KevinDDR
waits the zealot...
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Fall City, WA
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February 21, 2007, 11:08:03 PM
#7
Quote from: "ancsik"
IZ provided the PAX machines (though the creators wouldn't be directly involved in rentals). Also, I believe I remember them having a news post way back involving IZ.
This comic isn't even remotely funny.
Yeah, the old one was about Quarters.
This comic is just stupid. I didn't laugh, and didn't actually really see "teh funnays" in this at all. Still, I
guess
it's good that someone recognized the arcade closing, but like Met said,
Quote from: "metroid23"
It's not even remotely funny and I hope they die in a fire. They act like they ever fucking went there or something.
Give me a break.
checkrox
Richmond, B.C
February 22, 2007, 09:58:44 AM
#8
Even though it was a 6th mix, I really enjoyed playing FREE GuitarFreaks for about 9 hours straight at last years Penny Arcade Expo.. Do you guys know any other arcades down there that would possibly part with their machines for a few days?? Hopefully something newer??
metroid23
Marysville, Wa
February 22, 2007, 10:28:13 AM
#9
Luckily that one person, Bill Masterman, (of Masterman Vending) regularly browses these forums as "mvco." He is the coolest arcade operator ever (no, seriously) and would be just about the only person in the region that would have the connections to pull something like that off.
KiDo.LuKE
BI
February 22, 2007, 11:24:35 AM
#10
sorry to sound like a noob, as i am sure ppl already know about this. but what happend/is happening to the ITG2 dedicab that they had? (@ illuzionz)
metroid23
Marysville, Wa
February 22, 2007, 11:41:29 AM
#11
They never had an ITG2 dedicab...
Laura
FILTHY CASUAL
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Bellevue, WA
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February 22, 2007, 11:48:30 AM
#12
I'm really glad I'm not the only one who didn't really see why this was that funny. :> I was worried I just didn't "get it" or something.
As a sidenote, not only do Gabe and Tycho hold PAX around here, but they're actually FROM this area... so yeah, of course they know about IZ.
ancsik
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February 22, 2007, 05:43:26 PM
#13
Quote from: "metroid23"
Luckily that one person, Bill Masterman, (of Masterman Vending) regularly browses these forums as "mvco." He is the coolest arcade operator ever (no, seriously) and would be just about the only person in the region that would have the connections to pull something like that off.
Bill can't rent out/lend his machines due to the nature of his contracts (Imagine if all the Bemani at Acme or Narrows was suddenly gone for 3 days, they really wouldn't be happy about the lost income); he might have connections, but only a place like IZ that owned both the machines and the building can rent out machines without getting into trouble.
@luke: IZ never had a dedicab, they had the beta test upgrade cab. Regardless, their stuff is either being auctioned off or taken by the government, depends on the bankrupcy proceedings.
metroid23
Marysville, Wa
February 22, 2007, 05:54:04 PM
#14
edit: Sorry, re-read your post and realized that it looked like you assumed that I meant he was going to pull from local inventory. My point was that he's the only guy around with the cred to do soemthing like that now that IZ is gone regardless of how it happens.
Quote from: "ancsik"
@luke: IZ never had a dedicab, they had the beta test upgrade cab. Regardless, their stuff is either being auctioned off or taken by the government, depends on the bankrupcy proceedings.
Is this fact? Mike was previous MSFTE who made enough to retire and start his own business with what appeared to be a lot of his own personal capital. I don't know what's happening to his stuff, but the government taking possession sounds very unlikely.
diphen
43
Seattle
February 22, 2007, 06:01:55 PM
#15
I think that the comic isnt exactly supposed to be funny.
It makes little enough sense that I assume they're leading up to something in the next comic.
manyminimoos
Marysville
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February 22, 2007, 07:23:49 PM
#16
Either that or PA comics are never funny
ancsik
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February 22, 2007, 07:52:20 PM
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Quote from: "metroid23"
Is this fact? Mike was previous MSFTE who made enough to retire and start his own business with what appeared to be a lot of his own personal capital. I don't know what's happening to his stuff, but the government taking possession sounds very unlikely.
I'm only going off of what I heard from Laura (she'd been looking into getting the 4th+ Solo); Mike's barely been in contact with anybody since IZ closed but (IIRC) he wasn't fully sure he would be able to sell his stuff off. Or I might be mixing this up with rumors, it's been awhile since there was any news. Whatever the case is, nobody's sure what's happening to the machines at this point.
Laura
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Bellevue, WA
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February 22, 2007, 08:00:33 PM
#18
And, for the record, I was mostly assuming that there were going to have to be bankruptcy proceedings, since, due to what Met stated about Mike basically just starting IZ up with his own money, he'd be personally liable for anything he couldn't pay for. IZ was a HUGE monetary drain, and he recently revamped the place so much that if he didn't need to file for bankruptcy, I'd be damn impressed.
That said, I never said that I knew for sure. I also haven't heard from him for about three weeks. All he really told me is that he's not sure exactly what's going to happen to the machines but he'll let me know when he knows.
metroid23
Marysville, Wa
February 22, 2007, 08:05:35 PM
#19
Then please stop making complete conjecture as to his financial situation.
edit: that came off harsher than I wanted. I would just like him to go down with a little dignity. He made a huge impact and really don't think he's getting the credit due. I don't want to make a mockery of such an important figure to this community. If he's bankrupt, he's bankrupt- but not until someone proves it.
manyminimoos
Marysville
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February 22, 2007, 08:17:32 PM
#20
Quote from: "metroid23"
I would just like him to go down with a little dignity. He made a huge impact and really don't think he's getting the credit due. I don't want to make a mockery of such an important figure to this community. If he's bankrupt, he's bankrupt- but not until someone proves it.
Fucking amen. I hated everyone just jumping IZ's throat as soon as they went out of business, as if this was the desire of the community and now that they're gone all is merry and happy.
KevinDDR
waits the zealot...
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Fall City, WA
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February 22, 2007, 08:55:22 PM
#21
For the first ~3-4 years of my bemani playing "career", I
exclusively
went to IZ.
KiDo.LuKE
BI
February 23, 2007, 08:02:44 AM
#22
Quote from: "metroid23"
edit: Sorry, re-read your post and realized that it looked like you assumed that I meant he was going to pull from local inventory. My point was that he's the only guy around with the cred to do soemthing like that now that IZ is gone regardless of how it happens.
Quote from: "ancsik"
@luke: IZ never had a dedicab, they had the beta test upgrade cab. Regardless, their stuff is either being auctioned off or taken by the government, depends on the bankrupcy proceedings.
Is this fact? Mike was previous MSFTE who made enough to retire and start his own business with what appeared to be a lot of his own personal capital. I don't know what's happening to his stuff, but the government taking possession sounds very unlikely.
lol Government will now start to play DDR/ITG...i wana see bush fall on his ass while doing it......anywho back on topic sry bout all that
metroid23
Marysville, Wa
February 23, 2007, 11:34:05 AM
#23
Ok, who let DDRFreak know we have a forum?
Arkaaito
February 23, 2007, 12:04:47 PM
#24
I count myself very lucky to have frequented Illusionz (if only for a couple of months) while I was out in Seattle back in 2005. I got a chance to play PNM, GF and PPP for the first and only time there. And it was a great experience for me - before then my only exposure to Bemani had been the local DDR machines and one guy's home PNM set-up.
I think it's awesome that the founder made the leap to do something like this, and I'm sorry to see it go under.
As to the financial repercussions, the death of a business is an incredibly convoluted matter, and none of us (except the owners) can possibly know how it is going to pan out until after the fact. So there's really no point in speculating. I will say that it's
possible
that if the business was incorporated as an LLC or similar, the owners' personal finances and some or all of their initial investment will be salvaged. Let us all generically hope for the best and say no more on the subject.
Quote from: "metroid23"
Ok, who let DDRFreak know we have a forum?
I blame the crosspost to Bemanistyle, myself - it lets the riffraff like me in.
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