Just finished some repairs on the pads and they seem to be functioning pretty well. I replaced some foam that's been moved around during play and added a few layers of tape to help keep the pads flush with the center panel.

Also, the foam I'm using now isn't the best, it tends to move and compress to easily. I'm using a High Density Foam Tape/weatherstrip and its not cutting it. Any suggestions for a better foam tape?

It's supposed to be compressed. All foam compresses immediately after using. There is a break-in period. That foam lasts the longest, in my experience, and no other foam has as much life/elasticity as the high density rubber tape I always use.

I started using a different modding method on my left side. So far I'm still tweaking and its not perfect but its way faster to maintain and work with than doing the corner mod. I'll post more about it later if anyone is interested.

Yeah! I would love to her more insight on how to mod the pads better.

Did you set the ports in Static.ini corresponding to the ports in Machine Diagnostics? If it's coming up as P2 on the P1 port, the matching logic either sees that port as matching P2, or as explicitly not matching P1 if P2 has no matching criteria.

In any case, it should suffice for remote troubleshooting if you can send me a copy of Static.ini and the output of "lsusb -v" with unique devices plugged into the ports of the front hub. Otherwise, I can sort it out in less than 10 minutes if we meet up some weekend to resolve it.

For some reason last week when I put my usb in slot 2 it read as "csik". I remember seeing this weird problem a few times years ago.

That used to happen all the time for us. It's like it loads a local copy of someone else's profile sometimes....no clue why it does that.

Hi guys. I'm a newfag to these forums and somewhat a new Sunday regular to the ACME. Name's Kevin.

Not sure what a "newfag" is but welcome.

Hey, Chris

Oh shoot. Just in case someone might take the "-fag" suffix as offensive...
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fag-suffix

Welcome to the forums, Kevin!  There's actually an introduction thread located here if you want to tell us a little bit more about yourself!

Also, just to make my stance as the mod clear, because the concern was brought up to me and I never really formally explained this anywhere:

I want PNWBemani to be a safe space, but I also don't want it to be a nanny state.  In as much, genuine hate speech (such as calling an LGBT or minority member of the forums a slur for the obvious intended purpose of hurting their feelings, threatening to beat someone up, etc) will not be tolerated.  However, I also still have a little bit of a libertarian streak, and have no intent to censor language on its own basis, even if I don't love it (I personally stopped using the word "fag" in all contexts when I realized that I had some friends who were hurt/upset by it, even when it wasn't meant as an insult.)  

Basically, your rights do not end where my feelings begin, and I'm not ever going to edit a post solely because it contains a "bad word" - there has to be ill will there, too, and here there clearly wasn't - but I do want to make it clear that even if you're only using it in the 4chan context, some members of this forum won't appreciate use of the "-fag" suffix.  (Some members also probably don't appreciate when we all go on an FP quoting spree and drop N-bombs like we were Scotty D (GET IT LOL) but again, freedom of speech reigns in the absence of ill will.)  

Edit: The link to the thread actually works now.   

Oh, okay sorry. I guess I was acting like a "newfriend" by saying that here.

Well, it's nice to finally get to have access to know you all better now!

HI KEVIN DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM BY MY USE OF CAPS LOCK!?!?!? I bet you can guess

Hey everyone!

Just posting to let everyone know that I've redone the pads at ACME! I've noticed that the foam that I was using was sliding and moving around a little more than I wanted. I did noticed that Player 1 and 2 have been false triggering and/or getting stuck with the old foam, probably as a result of the foam moving around. So, I've started using a Rubber Foam that adheres far better and doesn't move around. Still need to tinker with the pads to get them up to 100% but they are fully functional at the moment.

There are false triggers that still occur on the Player 1 side but they are few and far between. I'm going back tomorrow to continue working on the pads. I haven't necessarily figured out why the Player 1 side Right Arrow is false triggering but with a little more work I'm sure I can fix it.

The Player 2 side Left Arrow, inner sensor had a few screws that were out so I screwed them back in. I'm not entirely sure what this particular piece is called but it is now fixed! 

I wanted to make note that I'm going to be trying some thinner pieces of foam/cardboard to help flush the pads even more. Any suggestions for a super thin piece of foam/cardboard we be greatly appreciated!

To Recap:

• Both pads work well with the exception of a few false triggers on the Player 2 side.
• New Rubber Foam is now in use.

As always, feel free to contact me via text message or though the forums if there are any issues with the pads!

Thanks! 

OH HAI DAR, I DON'T REALLY KNOW FOR SURE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE REGULARS I'VE MET AT ACME WHO ARE THIS DELIBERATELY EXCITING IN THEIR SPEECH, SO I'M GUESSING YOU'RE THE GUY WHO GOT INTO A BAR WITH SOMEONE ELSE'S ID AND PLAYED "DISCONNECTED" WITH ME RIGHT?

or not lel

EDIT:
HOLD UP YOU'RE FEMALE

I'm sorry that I don't know your name.. but I'm pretty sure you know that I know that you know that I know you're that girl who I can best remember encouraged Hollie about the ankles

Just posting to ask if Bill and his team can spare a few sensors for me. I've been working on the ITG 3 pads at Acme Bowl for about a month keeping them at 100% and keeping them maintained but it seems there are some issues that I cannot address myself.

I've noticed that a few sensors on both sides, players 1 and 2 are dead and some of them have split and are now not functional. This is probably the reason why the pads have been false triggering. I don't have access to the sensors nor do I know where to obtain them so I am turning to you for some help. Would it be possible for me to grab a few spare sensors from you guys?

Also, it would help tremendously if I can get access to the sensor input while I work on the pads so I don't spend $1 just to see if the pads are functional, fail, and then put in another $1 to fail again because the pads aren't working. Of course the modding is all on me and was my decision so if access to the sensor input is not possible I completely understand.

Thank you for your consideration!

Sure, we can hook you up with some sensors.  We have someone going to Acme this morning.  I will have them leave a few sensors.  We will hide them where you can retreive them.  We will put them behind the machine, just laying on the floor.  So just pull the cabinet out a bit and look down.

Fantastic! Thank you so much! Hopefully, replacing a few dead sensors will help with the false triggering and make the pads better than before!

I'll keep people posted with the status of the pads since it is Friday and I'm pretty sure people will be going to play.

Updates on the Player 1 and 2 pads:

Both sides seem to be working well, player 1 side especially! Both sides are as flush as they possible could be without to many complications. The player 2 side however is still giving me a little bit of trouble.

I've noticed that when the Player 2 side is flush with the center panel, more pressure is required to trigger the pads. This is probably a result of the new foam I've been using, so I might redo them with the old foam. The old foam requires far more maintenance and the causes the pads to be less flush but if that is what it takes for the pads to be more responsive, I'll take it.

I've replaced 2 sensors in the player 2 side, one on the up arrow (sensor closest to the center panel), and one on the left arrow (sensor closest to the center panel). Both are now fully functional and with zero false triggers! Yay!

The only real big issue I wanted to address with the up arrow on the player 2 side is that foot switching feels impossible with the foam. When I would play a foot switch chart or charts with rapid up arrows, it doesn't register the second hit unless I stomp harder. It is the least responsive panel out of all of the other panels on the machine. Single notes are no problem, or when they are spaced out in a stream, but not when they are back to back up arrows. Even with the old foam, foot switching/double up arrows weren't responding well. I'm not sure how to make it so foot switching/double up arrow notes are possible... Any suggestions?

As far as the Player 1 side goes, even with the new rubber foam everything works really well, no issues, no problems!

Footswitching, streaming, double up arrow'ing, 240 bpm'ing, etc'ing... all good!  

ALSO,

I just wanted to let everyone know that on Sunday, November 3, I will be going to Acme to fix the player 2 side around noon, so if you are planning on playing at that time, please make note that the player 2 side won't be available for about 30 mins to an hour. This maintenance is to address the couple issues I've mentioned up top and to redo the foam modding to make the player 2 side panels work at 100%!

Thanks for your understanding,

Chris

Hey, I was at the ACME today at around 3pm.

Right when I walked into the arcade, I noticed some middle-school kids playing around the machine and wasting their money on it (not actually playing but just blindly stepping and being goofy little brats) and some of them were picking at the USB ports, sort of wobbling it around. They stopped as soon as they realized I was standing right behind them and I displayed a little bit of anger at them.

I'd just like to let you know in case they might've fucked it up.

Thanks Kevin for letting us know. 

Guys I'm fizzling out.  

Seriously contemplating quitting this game. I can't handle our pads at Acme, even with the foam they are janky as fuck. I can't figure out what's wrong with it I've been tweaking the pads for the past 2 weeks and they are still false triggering, getting stuck, etc. Also can't handle playing the same shit over and over again. I'm being extra dramatic, lol.

Maybe my time has come to say my goodbyes.  

take your beasting to pump

I really thought that was just me sucking at ITG today. So the pads are having trouble?


Nuuuu.. don't leave

Yeah the pads are a bit janky. I'm not sure what's going on, I've done everything I could but nothing seems to be working. Probably going Sunday to try to fix them again but we will see.

Annnnddd.... Screw pump! 4panel4life!

That's a shame because I would've loved to see you beast this one day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXXOtNsIH1Q

^ That is the only singles chart I haven't passed yet.