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Laura
April 30, 2011, 12:55:49 PM - ORIGINAL POST -

S.P.E.R.G.I.N.:  Stepcharts Produced by Enterprising Rhythm Gamers In the Northwest
Brought to you by Laura (Laura) and Ben (sfxazure)
With help from Jonathan (BlueSS)

4 June 2011/16 July 2011
Entry Fee: $5.00 if you preregister, $10.00 at the door.


Ben (sfxazure) recently moved to this area from the East Coast, and introduced me to several stepcharts from a tournament called D.O.W.N.S. (Dancing Over the Weekend to New Stepcharts) in which local players had a certain amount of time to create their own charts, which were then compiled into a tournament pack by the organizers.  Information on D.O.W.N.S. can be found here.

Ben and I have decided that we absolutely need to give a tournament like this a go on the West Coast.  I even managed to clear us a Saturday date this summer for the actual tournament - July 16th.  But, in order to make this happen, we need YOU!  


Phase One: Preregistration and Stepchart Submission
Due Date: 4 June, 2011

Preregistration will begin immediately and will run until the end of Phase One.  Attendees who preregister will pay a discounted rate ($5.00 instead of $10.00.)  Preregistration will be handled through PMs to Ben/sfxazure, who will accept payment through Amazon Payments, PayPal, or in person.  To keep things organized, please use the title “SPERGIN Preregistration” for your PM.

You will have from today until June 4th to submit up to three songs (one stepchart each) to be included in the tournament pack. Please use this submission form, and make sure to identify yourself by name/forum name somewhere in the file.   We encourage you to create and submit new stepcharts, but any are fine as long as you had a hand in their creation.  Submitted songs/stepcharts will be rejected if they do not conform to the following rules:

1. The chart must be to a song no longer than three minutes and thirty seconds (3:30) in length.  There are many reasons for this, including but not limited to the fact that we have to keep the tournament moving and the fact that 3:30 is ACME’s cutoff for a “long song.”  We don’t want people to have to pay more to practice some charts than others.

2. Songs must be appropriate for play in public venues such as ACME Bowl.  Please avoid profanity or find some way to work around it (clean versions, comedic censoring, etc.)  Any content deemed inappropriate for a public venue will be rejected.

3. Songs must be ITG Arcade Ready.  Details for preparing your songs can be found here.  If your song is over 2 minutes, DO NOT .OGG PATCH IT. Also, it is recommended that you test your file on Acme’s ITG machine before submitting it, as different machines have different syncing.

4. Stepcharts must have at least 50 hittable arrows.  We are all for exploring a wide range of difficulties, but please no “Beginner mode.”  While there may be ways to make an interesting chart with under 50 steps, it would increase the likelihood of ties and slow the tournament down.


We also reserve the right to reject a stepfile for unusual reasons, such as the file crashing StepMania.

Note:  If a song is rejected for any reason, you may submit a replacement; cleaned-up versions of rejected submissions can be submitted, as well as completely different songs/charts.  After a song has been accepted for the pack, it is finalized and can not be replaced or modified.

As soon as a stepchart is accepted into the pack, it will be made available for download at the bottom of this post.  This is because Ben and I will be entering the tournament ourselves, and we don’t want to gain an unfair advantage by viewing songs before they are released publicly.

By submitting charts to the tournament pack, you agree to enter the tournament.  While people who have not submitted stepcharts may enter, those of you who submit stepcharts must enter.  Because of this, we will not begin to evaluate stepcharts from any given entrant before they have preregistered for the tournament; consider your entry fee a form of collateral.  


Phase Two: Practice

During this period of time, the organizers will combine your charts into a pack.  If the organizers feel that there are not enough new stepcharts on which to run a tournament, we will find some quick hack to fix this issue.  This should take about a week.  After this, the pack will be released and installed on the ACME machine, so that you may practice these charts at your leisure.  This should take about a month.


Phase Three: TOURNAMENT!
16 July, 2011, start time TBA
Please note:  You will see the phrase “Because this is not intended to be a serious tournament...” many times.  This is because this is not intended to be a serious tournament, and is supposed to be for fun!   Please, then, do not get too caught up in minor details.

This will be a double elimination event with room for up to 32 entrants.  Only songs from the S.P.E.R.G.I.N. pack will be playable in this tournament.

Seeding:  Because this is not intended to be a serious tournament, seeding will be random.  If you complain about this, we will make fun of you on the internet.

Matches:  High seed gets first choice of machine side or pick order.  The other choice goes to low seed.  Each player will then pick one song of their choice to play against the other player.   Whoever gets the highest percentage (as calculated by the machine) on a given song wins that song.  (You know how this works by now.)  If both players are tied at the end of two songs, a third song will be chosen from the S.P.E.R.G.I.N. pack by way of the ITG machine’s “random” function.  If both players are still tied, another random tiebreaker will be chosen until the tie is broken.  

Song Selection:  Each player may only use a song as their “pick” once over the course of the tournament.  Because this is not intended to be a serious tournament, either player may fail any song throughout all tournament rounds with no additional penalty - once you fail, your percentage is “locked” as your score.  

Level Caps:  Because this is not intended to be a serious tournament, there will be no level caps. Any chart may be picked at any time in the tournament, regardless of difficulty (or opponent, since seeing is random.)  

Prizes:  Once preregistration ends and we have a better idea of how many entrants we will have, we will determine a prize structure based on 90% of the entry fees.  The remaining 10% of the cumulative entry fees will be donated to the Seattle Asperger Support Network.

Please note that although the “IN” in “S.P.E.R.G.I.N.” does stand for “In the Northwest,” out of state players are still more than welcome to participate and submit stepcharts.  It is our formal policy to welcome out of state players with open arms.  

Be assured that we have thought these rules through very carefully and have consulted competitors from D.O.W.N.S. to see what went right/wrong.  If you have any complaints regarding our rule-set, please refer to our FAQ infographic here.

EDIT: Files are now available for download HERE as they are submitted!

IMPORTANT EDIT 2:  Due to June 4th coinciding with the end of finals week (among other things,) we are giving everybody an extra week to submit charts; charts are now due by Midnight on Saturday, June 11th.  Additionally, each participant may now submit up to four charts.  

« Last Edit: November 23, 2011, 09:14:42 PM by BLueSS »
 
Laura
Read May 13, 2011, 11:42:15 AM #51

The "three stepcharts per person" rule exists to keep the tournament from being over-saturated with one person's charts.  Because most people only make one difficulty, we need for everyone to only make one difficulty so that a single person doesn't account for too large a percentage of the total playable charts. Smiley
 
ancsik
Read May 13, 2011, 02:46:12 PM #52

I take no issue with uploading a full set of charts for songs that have them after the tournament ends, since thoroughness is always appreciated, but we definitely want to avoid oversaturation of some player's charts for the tournament itself as well as avoiding any potential drop in overall quality that comes from one player churning out dozens of charts before the deadline because they can.

Also, I don't see why a player can't submit multiple charts for the same song, so long as it stays in line with the 3 charts per player rule (so Expert/Hard for one song counts as two of your three), but that's just my opinion on it.  It'd be up to the organizers whether to allow that.

DS2, the r21-based custom tournament that had in 2007 (IIRC) had some issues with both, and while there were fairly strict rules about chart quality, there was no rule that it had to be your own chart nor a limit on submissions and the body of charts submitted was large enough that almost nothing was actually screened despite some flagrant rule violations.  I think around 8 people submitted charts at all, and half of them only one or two, then the remaining few people (myself included) sent in a dozen or more each and would up with a serious advantage.

And yeah, no OGG patching or submitting songs as MP3s.  I know people have mixed experiences here - some of the files in Customs 2 are patched and work fine, one or two of the files in Sakuracon 2010 were patched and the audio would go mute at 1:45.  By the same token, MP3s supposedly work and I believe Tuan tested one of his charts the other day using an MP3, but Vodka (Sakuracon 2010) is currently broken because we accidentally used the MP3 version rather than the OGG version when we reloaded the Sakuracon pack.  I don't care whether you've seen it work or not, the machine is provably finicky with regard to charts using MP3s and patched OGGs, even if for unrelated reasons; the probability of these being the cause of errors has a non-zero upper bound based on what has been seen, so it's plainly safer to use unpatched OGGs than to not.
 
Suko
Read May 13, 2011, 03:19:50 PM #53

And yeah, no OGG patching or submitting songs as MP3s.  I know people have mixed experiences here - some of the files in Customs 2 are patched and work fine, one or two of the files in Sakuracon 2010 were patched and the audio would go mute at 1:45.  By the same token, MP3s supposedly work and I believe Tuan tested one of his charts the other day using an MP3, but Vodka (Sakuracon 2010) is currently broken because we accidentally used the MP3 version rather than the OGG version when we reloaded the Sakuracon pack.  I don't care whether you've seen it work or not, the machine is provably finicky with regard to charts using MP3s and patched OGGs, even if for unrelated reasons; the probability of these being the cause of errors has a non-zero upper bound based on what has been seen, so it's plainly safer to use unpatched OGGs than to not.
I'd like to point out that the original post didn't specify they had to be in OGG format, simply that they didn't want it OGG length patched. Personally, I've taken to using MP3s on my machine and for the majority of my stepcharts due to (in my experiences) better compression. Also, I have seen longer charts actually act VERY weird in OpenITG (on my PC) while I was trying to work with them in edit mode after a length of time.

If it's SUPER CRITICAL that it's in OGG format, I'll comply. But I don't think it'll matter as long as the .SM file doesn't point to song_name.ogg instead of song_name.mp3.
 
Laura
Read May 13, 2011, 03:22:56 PM #54

The thread itself does not specify .ogg, because we link to an external guide that explains how it needs to be done which does specify this.  Sorry for the confusion!
 
NSX
Read May 13, 2011, 06:14:05 PM #55

Also, I have seen longer charts actually act VERY weird in OpenITG (on my PC) while I was trying to work with them in edit mode after a length of time.

Yeah, I've gotten this and I know why it happens... If you ogg. patch the song, OpenITG thinks it's only 1min and 45sec, therefore only letting you edit till that point. It still plays the whole song in dance mode (or whatever mode) but very annoying when editing songs. I think that's what you're referring to...
 
Laura
Read May 13, 2011, 07:09:20 PM #56

Happy to announce that one of "my" "charts" is up! Cheesy
 
ancsik
Read May 14, 2011, 12:18:51 PM #57

If it's SUPER CRITICAL that it's in OGG format, I'll comply. But I don't think it'll matter as long as the .SM file doesn't point to song_name.ogg instead of song_name.mp3.

Last night, I swapped out Vodka.sm pointing to Vodka.mp3 for a separate Vodka.sm pointing to Vodka.ogg (and swapped the song files) and it immediately started working.

Stepmania (and it's derivatives) are solidly engineered with regard to media formats - in general, they can handle any format that your system has a codec for, since they use your system's codec libraries rather than bundling some with the game.  Since the Acme machine has been shown to handle MP3s via USB fine, it makes absolutely no sense that they break when loaded onto the machine's file system.  Maybe they'd be fine if loaded via UserPacks - I wouldn't know because I haven't tried - but for content added via SSH/SCP, no unpatched OGG has been a problem whereas the only MP3 I know of broke.

Also, MP3 may have better compression than OGG (I can't comment), but I'll be throwing in a 250 GB drive in the next couple weeks, so space won't be a major concern for the Acme machine specifically.
 
BLueSS
Read May 14, 2011, 01:21:33 PM #58

Nice. I remember when this wouldn't work at all for songs, and .OGG used to be the ONLY way of getting it to work.
 
sfxazure
Read May 14, 2011, 09:13:32 PM #59

OMGGUYS I uploaded my first chart!  Go take a look! Cheesy
 
Keby
Read May 18, 2011, 01:31:22 AM #60

It's not uploading for me?
I'm getting a 777 change permissions error.

My simfile is in a compressed .zip folder. Help please?

I really want you guys to look at my submission....it's gonna make you get down. Real Down.
 
sfxazure
Read May 18, 2011, 04:53:59 AM #61

It's not uploading for me?
I'm getting a 777 change permissions error.

My simfile is in a compressed .zip folder. Help please?

I really want you guys to look at my submission....it's gonna make you get down. Real Down.

Aw, that's lame!  I don't know why that'd happen since I didn't set it up.  In the meantime, if you can find any other way to send the file to me that'll be fine.  PM me a link or something?
 
Laura
Read May 18, 2011, 02:01:55 PM #62

Also, don't forget, we can't do anything with your charts until you preregister!  PM Ben for details!
 
sfxazure
Read May 18, 2011, 02:03:37 PM #63

I have this chart that's mostly done.  I have to sync it with the machine, which is hard since I'm on the wrong coast until next week.  In the interest of being fair (since a few people have already seen the chart), here's a preview of the song I'm working on.

http://bkirz-public.s3.amazonaws.com/PONIES.zip

Disclaimers:  In general, the feel of the chart should stay the same, but it's not properly synced, and some patterns may change before I officially submit.

 
BLueSS
Read May 18, 2011, 08:29:46 PM #64

It's not uploading for me?
I'm getting a 777 change permissions error.
I've tested the uploader in both Chrome and Firefox, and it works in those for me...

1) What browser were you using?
2) Does the filename have any odd characters?
 
NSX
Read May 18, 2011, 08:50:40 PM #65

I got the same error as well... D:

Using Firefox and no strange characters in the filename at all for me.
 
BLueSS
Read May 18, 2011, 09:05:14 PM #66

Ok, I made a change.  Please try it again. Smiley
 
Keby
Read May 18, 2011, 11:19:53 PM #67

I am using chrome, but I'll try again later and report back
 
Suko
Read May 19, 2011, 08:53:16 PM #68

KILL IT! KILL THE BOT BEFORE IT KILLS ALL OF US!
 
BLueSS
Read May 19, 2011, 09:14:33 PM #69

Done. Tongue  Has anyone tried the uploader since my post?
 
Suko
Read May 20, 2011, 08:49:34 AM #70

I have a two charts I need to test on my machine when I get home tonight. After that, I'll probably be uploading something.
 
Laura
Read May 20, 2011, 07:57:37 PM #71

I'm at ACME now, so if you upload them, I can give them a try on this machine, too! Grin
 
Laura
Read May 23, 2011, 11:27:20 AM #72

Guyyssss, we need your songs and preregistration dollars to make this tournament work!  Tony and I have been slackin' too, but seriously, we all need to get our butts in gear now and race to the finish line.
 
Suko
Read May 23, 2011, 03:51:23 PM #73

I'm going through a lot of crap right now. I'll get them to ya by the deadline. That's all I can really say right now.
 
Laura
Read May 23, 2011, 05:08:56 PM #74

No worries; this wasn't directed at you in particular.  Smiley  Mostly to those who are "attending" per the FB event but haven't actually posted anything indicating they're actually making charts.  I look forward to seeing what you've got when the time comes!
 
pantsuuuu
Read May 28, 2011, 09:08:52 PM #75

 I didn't read the entire thread but I am wondering if I can submit files even though I can't test them at acme?  Like would I be able to send them to kevin to test or whatever?
 
 
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