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May 31, 2011, 12:58:49 PM
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ancsik
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Re: Acme ITG updates
There are a few repeats, there are a few songs with inappropriate lyrics in some packs (as always, we need to tread carefully lest Acme request removal of the machine); I'll remove stuff as I become aware of it - if anyone sees a song they think is a duplicate or inappropriate, let me know (PM, in person, whatever) and I will take a look at it as soon as I get a chance.
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: See first post for details
May 31, 2011, 12:08:49 PM
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Keby
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Re: Acme ITG updates
In terms of updates to custom songs.
There is like somewhere around 400-500 new songs on there.
YES there are repeats in there, but some charts are different than others. We can get these taken care of pretty fast though.
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May 31, 2011, 10:30:21 AM
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ancsik
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Re: Acme ITG updates
Trying to figure out the USB issues as quickly as possiblel getting USB ports to work correctly is apparently a common issue on Boxorroxors, but everyone who posts about it is asked if they tried a few things (that I've tried) and then they never respond.
It doesn't help that the posts are generally about installing a new Linux distro along with a new drive, so all of the posts use
slightly
different configurations (and different naming conventions) and are liable to have
slightly
different solutions as a result.
And, of course, there's a good chance that the current configuration is perfect, but the hub died again.
May 31, 2011, 10:21:06 AM
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Gerrak
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Re: Acme ITG updates
Aaaaaaahhh please fix the USBs ASAP!
Although the new packs should mostly take care of my custom songs anyway
Good work Tony! Thanks!
Focus not on destroying your foe, but on obtaining your own victory...
May 30, 2011, 08:58:03 PM
#8
ancsik
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Re: Acme ITG updates
New drive is formatted as a 200 GB data partition and a 50 GB partition which may eventually house the original drive's image (at which point, that drive can be retired as a backup drive in case of failures).
There's some file tree cleanup to be done (which should cause no visible changes) and the Customs 2 pack will be removed, since Keby had built it from the packs now installed on the new drive.
Unfortunately, the USB drives are currently non-functional. My drive doesn't even light up when plugged in (and my drive is confirmed to work on other computers); it could be a software configuration issue, but I think it would still power a drive if that were the case. I'll be stopping by in the next day or two to get into the back of the machine and see if I can make a drive mount correctly on the computer's ports under the current setup so that I can isolate the issue and figure out if I need to fix the configuration or if the hub has died again.
May 23, 2011, 03:44:08 PM
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Suko
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Re: Acme ITG updates
Quote from: ancsik on May 23, 2011, 10:30:48 AM
If extra RAM doesn't fix it, then the issue is related to the way UserPacks works; ITG 3/Rebirth, Customs 1, and Keby's pack are all handled via UserPacks at the moment. UserPacks has everything packaged in .zips which OpenITG decompresses at some point (I honestly don't know the internals); given the lack of space on the machine, I can only assume some of the data is being decompressed on the fly as you browse the song list, which would cause lag whenever you hit a block of songs not currently in memory. I'll be moving our custom content (ITG 3/Rebirth) onto the new drive once it's formatted and handling it without the UserPacks manager (that is, I'll be storing the songs without archiving them), so the lag should go away in a hurry.
This coincides with my experiences.
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May 23, 2011, 10:30:48 AM
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ancsik
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Re: Acme ITG updates
Never made it to Acme yesterday, formatting will happen when I get a chance. Might take a shot at it tonight, if I get to Acme at a conducive time.
As for RAM, I'll swing by Fry's on the way to Acme next time I go and pick up a second GB stick. The second stick should fix the lag issues* either because our current 1GB isn't enough (per Suko: doubtful, but possible) or because our current single stick arrangement doesn't offer enough bandwidth.
*Lag while browsing USB songs may or may not be a function of the slow USB drivers, so RAM won't necessarily fix USB lag - I don't know the necessary details, so we'll see what happens.
If extra RAM doesn't fix it, then the issue is related to the way UserPacks works; ITG 3/Rebirth, Customs 1, and Keby's pack are all handled via UserPacks at the moment. UserPacks has everything packaged in .zips which OpenITG decompresses at some point (I honestly don't know the internals); given the lack of space on the machine, I can only assume some of the data is being decompressed on the fly as you browse the song list, which would cause lag whenever you hit a block of songs not currently in memory. I'll be moving our custom content (ITG 3/Rebirth) onto the new drive once it's formatted and handling it without the UserPacks manager (that is, I'll be storing the songs without archiving them), so the lag should go away in a hurry.
May 21, 2011, 03:19:27 PM
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ancsik
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Re: Acme ITG updates
Physically installed the new drive and checked the RAM today. Will format the drive another day (likely tomorrow morning, per my last post), since that could take awhile and people are here playing.
The new drive is confirmed to be recognized in the BIOS output.
Our RAM setup is just one Kingston KVR400/1GR, which is a 1GB PC3200 DDR stick. Per Suko's experience, 1GB is probably enough total memory, so I'd assume the lag is being caused by the bottleneck that using a single stick will cause.
May 18, 2011, 02:13:18 PM
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ancsik
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Re: Acme ITG updates
Hopefully the machine will still be in good working order next week; I'm currently planning on stopping by on Sunday morning (probably not right when they open at 9am, but still fairly early in the day) to finally open up the machine and check out the RAM / Hard Drive situation.
If I have the ability to do so on the spot, I will get the new drive properly formatted and do whatever is needed to properly mount it. If I can't, I may try to extend the current ITG partition, since only ~8 GB of the (supposedly) 40 GB drive is currently formatted and extending the partition is claimed to be an almost painless process if you have the right programs handy.
If I can't set up the new drive on the spot for some reason, I'll figure out what I need to set up to do it on my desktop. I would need to remove the current drive from the machine, take it home, set everything up, and then go back to Acme to get the machine back online if I did it this way - if it comes to this, I will schedule it for a weekend morning again to minimize impact.
May 18, 2011, 10:35:18 AM
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Gerrak
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Re: Acme ITG updates
I wanted to mention I got a new USB and it does seem to have cleared up most of my issues I've had, so I apologize for any false alarms on problems; I think at present there's actually NOTHING WRONG WITH THE ACME MACHINE. FINALLY (except the coin slot's a little screwy I guess).
Good work Tony
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May 16, 2011, 10:12:48 PM
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ancsik
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Re: Acme ITG updates
I wanted to separate the requests thread from updates regarding work going into the machine, since there's a whole lot encompassed general machine updates and a potential for a lot of very specifically focused posting in the requests thread.
May 16, 2011, 01:42:10 PM
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Suko
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Re: Acme ITG updates
Personally, I would just have Laura rename the title of this thread to "Acme ITG2 custom content thread" and use it, since it's already there and stickied.
http://www.pnwbemani.net/western-wa/acme-bowl-itg-custom-song-request-thread/
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May 16, 2011, 01:25:23 PM
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ancsik
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Acme ITG updates
It's probably about time to break this topic out from the main Acme thread, since there's been a lot of information about the machine posted to the main thread and the details are being obscured by meetup content at the same time that it makes it hard to notice the meetup / service update posts.
This thread will be here just to notify people of the work I do on the machine. Song/pack requests should still go through the requests thread, physical maintenance still goes through the main thread. In general, this thread is for reporting bugs to me (theme doing weird stuff, songs broken, etc) and for me to notify everyone of the changes I make.
ANNOUNCEMENT (5/31/11):
I'm beginning a daunting project - polishing the custom content so the machine remains suited to public use. There are two main issues with much of the new content which will make the game awkward for new players and potentially existing players: Expert only and automatically generated display BPM.
Full sets of charts for every song in every pack is a lofty and very impractical goal given how long it will take to write that many charts, but a lot of the new content ranks in at very high difficulties, and it's going to be a problem if a lot of players don't want to play with one another because the single difficulty available for a chart isn't amenable to both players - making a 9+ Hard chart to match the 12+ Expert charts of non-long songs would be a good start toward balancing things out so that players won't feel a strong need to play one at a time. I know this is a potential issue as there were whispers of "I don't want to play a set with X because I want to play significantly harder/easier charts than X" yesterday, and having alternate, but still expert level, charts will help mitigate this damage as well as mitigate how scary a fully-loaded machine will be to newer players. Volunteers to help out with writing charts would be greatly appreciated - the new songs are all from widely available packs, so if anyone wants to write an alternate chart, go find the right pack, write it (and test it, please), then send the new .sm file to me.
Fixing display BPMs is a much simpler task. Almost everyone has, at some point, gotten screwed by seeing a 140 BPM song listed as 140-280 because of some stuttered notes and picking the wrong speed mod as a result. Any time you find such a chart, let me know what the real BPM or BPM range (I know of a song that is 50-100, but displays as 50-200 due to stuttering - I'm sure there are others) is and I will update the file with the corrected display BPM value(s).
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