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February 21, 2010, 09:00:32 PM - ORIGINAL POST -
SomeLauraChick

{Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


What? A pay-your-way, somewhat informal tournament to celebrate the opening of the Pink Gorilla arcade and facilitate the acquisition of more Bemani by the operator of said arcade's machines, Bobby Conover!

When? Saturday, 2/27/10, at 1 o clock PM.

Where? Pink Gorilla in the U-District - specifically, on University Way ("The Ave") and 45th.

Rules

Although the tournament officially starts at 1 PM, I will be available from about 12:10 if people want to stagger in early and get qualifying out of the way. Because players are paying for their own games, I suggest warming up with two songs and then playing the qualifier, which will be announced day-of, as the third song in your set. This tournament will be organized according to standard bracketing. Whether the event is double elimination or single elimination will be decided the day of, depending on how many participants show up. All players will need to pay for their own games, as part of the purpose of this tournament is to show the "powers that be" that Bemani games are big earners!

There will be a one dollar entry fee, in addition to paying for your own games. This is so that the winner of this tournament gets SOMETHING. 100% of your one dollar entry fees will go to the winner. EDIT: I have just been informed that PG is going to throw in a 25 dollar gift certificate for the winner! They're giving us prizes, guys. This is GOOD.

This tournament will follow the "best two out of three" format. The higher seed will be given their choice of EITHER picking which side they want, or picking whether their song selection will be first or second. If the match is not decided by the second song, a third song will be picked at random. If no third song is needed, both players are still entitled to finish playing their set, because they paid for it. Because SN2 machine score is calculated based on straight calculation of marvelouses, perfects, and greats, we will be deciding the winners of matches by machine score.

Any song on Heavy/Oni OR rated as 7 feet or higher may be played at any time in this tournament. However, we are posting a flyer on the SN2 machine itself, so there may be some walk-ins of various skill levels - please do not pick the hardest songs in the game against them. The point is to encourage the growth of this arcade AND the community around it.

Water and soda will be provided by me, as Pink Gorilla doesn't have a drinking fountain or vending machine. If you have a specific request, please feel free to let me know.

If you have any questions/comments/concerns, please post them here. Thanks, guys!

Edit: Oh yeah - if there isn't a large turnout, I may just break my first rule of tournament organization and enter myself. This is because I know that I'm not actually capable of winning any songs or matches, so it really probably isn't a big deal. Wink

Edit 2: Additional prizes!

Edit 3: I forgot about pad arbitration! If a player feels that they received a "boo" or "miss" due to sensor defect, I will do the math and determine if receiving a "perfect" would have made the outcome of the match different - I will NOT assume that your "boo" or "miss" would have been a "marvelous," because the timing window is so tight that such a thing is not a safe assumption. If getting a "perfect" instead of a pad error would make you the winner of the song, you will be declared the winner. Otherwise, you won't. If pad misses happen ENOUGH, we will open the machine up and rotate the sensors. However, keep in mind that this tournament costs one dollar to enter.

Any complaints along the lines of "Well, that one miss messed me up and that made me get 5 greats because I was distracted" will be cheerfully ignored.

« Last Edit: March 06, 2010, 11:45:00 AM by BLueSS »
 
February 27, 2010, 11:39:23 PM Read #37
kyubic

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Yeah, it was great to meet new people and shake some rust off, got a bit of motivation to play again and maybe I can get better in time for SC (assuming my panel will let me go) Smiley.
 
February 27, 2010, 11:36:25 PM Read #36
NSX

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Kick ass tournament. Haven't played like that in ages!  Cheesy And congratz keby, HIGH FIVE! =P


What's a Chinchilla?

Chinchilla!!
 
February 27, 2010, 09:54:03 PM Read #35
Suko

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Everyone who has videos and pics, please post them in this thread. I really would like to watch some of the matches I had with some of you and it was great to meet some of you new players.

I guess in the end I'm glad it was dbl elimination. It gave me a chance to improve from my terrible first set...17g on Frozen Ray, GAH!

Good tournament everyone, I hope to see you all again soon.


Arcades may have gone away, but their culture is not gone.

 
February 27, 2010, 09:47:56 PM Read #34
Dr.Z

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Lol, so I'm injured now haha. It's a long story. I'm still gonna show up, but we'll see if I heal up in two days lol. I don't expect to do well at all anymore.

That was an interesting story indeed regarding the ramen   Lips sealed Who knew instant lunches could cause such misfortune.
Anywho...

Congrads to Keby as well, for taking home the win. Final song results
I will likely copy/load a portion of the matches onto my Youtube within the next couple days. If there are any special requests, let me know. I got videos of most but not all.
 
February 26, 2010, 08:29:00 PM Read #33
Keby

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Lol, went to PGArcade tonight. My leg is feeling better. Played Freeway shuffle. 1 great 20 perfects.....

haha I'm feeling better, except for my wrist. I tell you guys my extremely embarrassing story tomorrow of how I got injured.


團隊燃燒的龍
 
February 26, 2010, 02:55:56 PM Read #32
Suko

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Dontcha worry...Keby will be there, and he will be kicking arse.

I'm hoping those of us top-tier players will keep this thing casual. I want to have a good time, regardless of what I place, and meet some new people.

I'm hoping I get the chance to play Orion.78 with Null or Rain so that we can do our Peg Leg Bar Hop.


Arcades may have gone away, but their culture is not gone.

 
February 26, 2010, 01:43:05 PM Read #31
Dr.Z

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Lol, so I'm injured now haha. It's a long story. I'm still gonna show up, but we'll see if I heal up in two days lol. I don't expect to do well at all anymore.

I now see my chances of winning to be 1 in 99 (instead of 100) now o.o;

Bad joke, and I'm sorry we'll be out another great player.. Competitions are coolest when you pit the best against the best..at their best.
 
February 25, 2010, 04:24:13 PM Read #30
ancsik

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Jon (Bressler) - I hadn't actually seen the part where you recalculated ties based on the two songs that are played. I do like that idea - the only concern is the fact that since this machine is NOT on freeplay, writing down both players' scores, marvs, perfects, and greats before the timer runs out is going to be a huge challenge, even with two people (which we don't have as of yet - so far, I'm the only person running it.)

In the past, we have had several tournaments with rules where pad errors were recalculated, and it has worked well (and was considered fair by all players.) I do really appreciate the input from a seasoned organizer, but please keep in mind that everybody will be watching, and the likelihood of somebody lying about a pad error AND nobody calling bullshit is about the same as the likelihood that I would seed first if I entered my own tournament - yes, it would be unfair and make the whole tournament suck, but it's just not going to happen.

BTW, I just realized that since I'm typing this on Tony's computer (my laptop won't turn on until I charge my battery a bit) I am probably posting as ancsik. This is Laura. Tongue
 
February 25, 2010, 03:12:58 PM Read #29
Keby

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Lol, so I'm injured now haha. It's a long story. I'm still gonna show up, but we'll see if I heal up in two days lol. I don't expect to do well at all anymore.


團隊燃燒的龍
 
February 25, 2010, 03:04:03 PM Read #28
DMN

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


In the case this small chance scenario comes up, I'm sure it'll be handled fairly, with or without your rule.

I can't tell if you are being hostile or not. If you are, Jon, There's no need to be, as I'm not trying to be hostile in any way, I am just pointing out potential scenarios.

This is close to con; I'll see if I can't finagle something from the con to give away as a prize. might be a little late as your event is in two days, but again, I'll see what I can finagle.
 
February 25, 2010, 02:21:36 PM Read #27
BLueSS

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Which is why I suggested still throwing the song out and making a tie break overall perfect percentage of the other two songs played should the match go 1-1. Giving a win due to machine error isn't fair to the other player, especially when you don't know for sure what the timing of the correct step was. What if it was a great and they would have ended up losing by 1 DP?

I understand this is a 'casual' event, but casual or not, you have to make a fair ruleset. I'm not trying to be a dick, I am just stating my case.
In the case this small chance scenario comes up, I'm sure it'll be handled fairly, with or without your rule.
 
February 25, 2010, 01:18:02 PM Read #26
DMN

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Bressler> The reason I'm assuming perfects is that I'm going to be WATCHING people's feet to make sure they're NOT misstepping. It's pretty clear when somebody's making a bullshit call, and most players won't let other players get away with it. It's very important to the structure of this tournament that no matches end in ties after three songs, because the machine is not on free play/event mode, so players will have to pay more to keep playing, and we will have to wait for them to finish three songs, as opposed to just the one it takes to resolve the match.

Which is why I suggested still throwing the song out and making a tie break overall perfect percentage of the other two songs played should the match go 1-1. Giving a win due to machine error isn't fair to the other player, especially when you don't know for sure what the timing of the correct step was. What if it was a great and they would have ended up losing by 1 DP?

I understand this is a 'casual' event, but casual or not, you have to make a fair ruleset. I'm not trying to be a dick, I am just stating my case.
 
February 25, 2010, 11:11:49 AM Read #25
kyubic

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Solomon!!! I always wondered where you went, haha. Saw you at SakuraCon and then never again!
Hey Kevin Smiley.  Yeah, been busy w/ school and other things.  

edit: Nvm, got you confused with someone else :p.  Checked your FB, I remember you being the really good player who was one of the younger ones Smiley.

« Last Edit: February 25, 2010, 11:13:29 AM by kyubic »
 
February 25, 2010, 11:03:44 AM Read #24
SomeLauraChick

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Bressler> The reason I'm assuming perfects is that I'm going to be WATCHING people's feet to make sure they're NOT misstepping. It's pretty clear when somebody's making a bullshit call, and most players won't let other players get away with it. It's very important to the structure of this tournament that no matches end in ties after three songs, because the machine is not on free play/event mode, so players will have to pay more to keep playing, and we will have to wait for them to finish three songs, as opposed to just the one it takes to resolve the match.


I would so look cuter than her if I could find a pair of UGGs that would fit me.
 
February 25, 2010, 10:56:14 AM Read #23
Suko

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Here comes critical Bressler...

I have a sort of a gripe with giving the win due to pad arbitration. I have always been of the opinion that if a pad error caused a match's momentum to shift, the song should be:

1) Thrown out and replayed
2) Thrown out, and if the match ends 1-1 or 2-2, Total perfect (or marv) percent of the songs should break the tie

The reason for this being that someone could actually misstep, and then blame it on the pad. That miss could give them a win they don't really deserve due to a player screwup and not a machine one.

Normally I'd agree with you, but for such a "low key" tournament, I think the way Laura has it is fine.

In all seriousness, the more "hard core and legit" you make this tournament, the more you'll probably just confuse some of the more casual people that're coming to play and have fun. Lets treat this thing like a tournament from 2004 and not stress over these things. I'm sure we'll all have a good time regardless.


Arcades may have gone away, but their culture is not gone.

 
February 25, 2010, 10:26:20 AM Read #22
KevinDDR

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Solomon!!! I always wondered where you went, haha. Saw you at SakuraCon and then never again!


Quote from: The Wise Fool
thewisefool4953 (9:28:22 PM): you're like the music game player equivalent of some teen who goes out and gets pregnant and addicted to heroin
 
February 25, 2010, 10:22:24 AM Read #21
DMN

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Here comes critical Bressler...

I have a sort of a gripe with giving the win due to pad arbitration. I have always been of the opinion that if a pad error caused a match's momentum to shift, the song should be:

1) Thrown out and replayed
2) Thrown out, and if the match ends 1-1 or 2-2, Total perfect (or marv) percent of the songs should break the tie

The reason for this being that someone could actually misstep, and then blame it on the pad. That miss could give them a win they don't really deserve due to a player screwup and not a machine one.
 
February 25, 2010, 10:13:24 AM Read #20
kyubic

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


I hate to nitpick, but I'm trying to figure out who you are (I'm Tony's wife,) and this doesn't make sense, because SC 2008 (2 years ago) was the only year we didn't go. Shocked
Oh, sorry I meant '07 (or it may have been '06? Ay...).  It was a while ago, and I only remember because I got an ITG pad (Tony got the ITG game)...maybe he can remember.  We played Max 300 and Butterfly.  I'm Solomon (hi hi) Smiley.
 
February 25, 2010, 09:54:35 AM Read #19
SomeLauraChick

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


At this point, it is safe to say that it will be single, BUT, if on the day of the tournament ten or fewer players have shown up to enter, it will be double. That's my cutoff.

Also, I edited the rules to deal with pad arbitration.


I would so look cuter than her if I could find a pair of UGGs that would fit me.
 
February 25, 2010, 09:51:01 AM Read #18
Suko

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


I don't mind helping with adminstrative work like gathering names, etc. I doubt that could be considered a conflict of interest...You'd still be adjucating any problems.

Btw, have you decided if this is to be single or dbl elimination? If there's 10+ people, I'd prefer single elim.

Also, I'll be bringing my mini box fan that works awesome for one side of the machine, but I suggest someone else brings another fan of some sorts because I think it gets really hot in that place, and I'm sure it'll be even hotter with a decent amount of people there.

« Last Edit: February 25, 2010, 09:54:53 AM by Suko »


Arcades may have gone away, but their culture is not gone.

 
February 25, 2010, 09:45:07 AM Read #17
SomeLauraChick

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


That's too bad! Sad

X-posted from Facebook: I need a volunteer who's coming but not entering to help me administrate, now that this tournament is getting kind of big. Basically, I just need you to take a clipboard and write down people's scores during qualifying, and watch people's feet when they play so that we can properly arbitrate for pad errors.


I would so look cuter than her if I could find a pair of UGGs that would fit me.
 
February 25, 2010, 09:37:50 AM Read #16
KevinDDR

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


I'm not available for this tournament. Sorry guys! :G


Quote from: The Wise Fool
thewisefool4953 (9:28:22 PM): you're like the music game player equivalent of some teen who goes out and gets pregnant and addicted to heroin
 
February 25, 2010, 12:31:46 AM Read #15
SomeLauraChick

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


I played Tony once in an SC DDR tournament 2 years ago, but other than that...yeah.

I hate to nitpick, but I'm trying to figure out who you are (I'm Tony's wife,) and this doesn't make sense, because SC 2008 (2 years ago) was the only year we didn't go. Shocked


I would so look cuter than her if I could find a pair of UGGs that would fit me.
 
February 25, 2010, 12:29:03 AM Read #14
kyubic

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


Very likely I'll stop by, rusty though and mostly going just to meet new people and check out Pink Gorilla for the first time Cheesy.  I played Tony once in an SC DDR tournament 2 years ago, but other than that...yeah.
 
February 24, 2010, 11:53:29 PM Read #13
Thunderbird

Re: {Tournament} Pink Gorilla Supernova 2 Tournament 2/27


I'll show up just to spectate, since I haven't been to any event of this nature for a couple years now, but my skills are pretty bad at this point Tongue.
 
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