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June 08, 2009, 04:40:36 PM - ORIGINAL POST -
nuggety

{Tournament} Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

Amber and Kevin presenttttt~



Dance Dance Party Party!
DDR Supernova & ITG2 Tournaments
Saturday, August 22 - Narrows Plaza Bowl
Sunday, August 23 - Acme Bowl

Contact info
Amber Harner
aim : nuggetynugg
email : flotastic@gmail

Kevin Birrell
aim : kevinddr2000
email : kevinddr2000@gmail

Either of us can also be reached via PM or this thread.

DDR Supernova Heavy Tournament
Saturday, August 22nd
Narrows Plaza Bowl
2200 Mildred Street West
University Place, WA 98466
253.565.1007

- Entry fee $15
- Prizes will be 55%/30%/15% for top 3 places.
- Double elimination, brackets will be NCAA style.
- Qualifying will start 11:00am, registration will close 12:30pm.
- Qualifier will be announced the day of from a selection of four potential songs that will be posted prior to the tournament, allowing sufficient time to practice.
- Matches will be best 2 out of 3, each player picks one song. If necessary, tiebreaker will be selected via random. Difficulty cap is still applicable (see below.)
- Higher seed gets choice of either first/second song OR preferred side.
- Only heavy and challenge songs are selectable. Players are allowed to pick a chart only once throughout the tournament (yes, this will be tracked.)
- The first two rounds, heavy and challenge charts selectable will be capped at 9 footers. Rounds three and on any song is selectable.
- Turn mods are not allowed for song picks. Players may pick their own speed mods and noteskins.
- Winner is determined by Perfect + OK count.
- Pad-error recalculations will be made when necessary - pad errors will be counted as Great, Perfect. This count resets per song. At the discretion of the tournament directors, songs may be replayed if deemed to be the most fair solution towards a dispute.

ITG2 Expert Tournament
Sunday, August 23rd
Acme Bowl
100 Andover Park West
Tukwila, WA 98188
206.340.2263

- Entry fee $15
- Prizes will be 55%/30%/15% for top 3.
- Double elimination, brackets will be NCAA style.
- Qualifying will start 11:00am, registration will close 12:30pm.
- Qualifier will be announced the day of from a selection of four potential songs that will be posted prior to the tournament, allowing sufficient time to practice.
- Matches will be best 2 out of 3, each player picks one song. If necessary, tiebreaker will be selected via random.  Difficulty cap is still applicable (see below.)
- Higher seed gets choice of either first/second song OR preferred side.
- Songs can be selected from ITG, ITG2, ITG3, and ITG Rebirth. Players are allowed to pick a chart only once throughout the tournament (and we will track this.) Only expert charts will be played.
- We will have a progressive difficulty cap.  First round, 11 difficulty cap. Second, 12 difficulty cap. Third, 13 difficulty cap. Fourth and on, no difficulty cap; anything goes.
- Mods allowed: Speed (including accel/decel, excluding cMods when they disqualify from ranking), Perspective, Arrow skin, Hide Judgment, and Mini.
- Winner is determined by percent score regardless of fail.
- Pad-error recalculations will be made when necessary - pad errors will be counted as Excellent, Excellent, Fantastic. This count resets per song. Some exceptions will apply as to what is counted as an Excellent or Fantastic in special situations (Example: Player A gets 0 Excellents and 1 pad error. This will be counted as a Fantastic) This rule will be implemented at the discretion of the tournament directors. Further at the discretion of the tournament directors, songs may be replayed if deemed to be the most fair solution towards a dispute.

« Last Edit: October 23, 2009, 03:47:10 PM by BLueSS »
 
August 26, 2009, 11:21:25 PM Read #75
nuggety

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

Quote from: ancsik on August 26, 2009, 09:45:10 PM
Expert-only rule: This seems to be standard elsewhere now and Amber's been going to tournaments out of state, but it definitely has no in-state precedent.
hence difficulty caps

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I will point out that the expert-only clause is sitting at the end of some other rule's line, no bold or anything, so it's understandable that people missed it.  Lesson to be learned: better formatting for the rules and print out a copy to bring day of.
ITG2 Expert Tournament

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Hard song slipping through:
lesson to be learned: it happens

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Entering own tournament: Clearly not rigged, but it has been considered bad form because there's a lot to keep track of without playing yourself.
two tournament organizers

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Claiming it's okay to enter because we haven't been having tournaments is a little on the moot side, but nothing severe in the conflict of interest department came of it, so whatever.

i just don't see why it is a problem that we entered other than people saying it is "bad form" and having no good point to back it up

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The organizers played each other one round and I doubt considerations were made as to how disputes would be handled between them.
i don't understand what this even means

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Lesson to be learned: organizer either needs to not enter, or have assistants so things can't slip by.
we had two of us running it, plus at least kevin boddy helping on the side

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Communication breakdown: ... Hell, both organizers spent the prior month overseas in different countries and only one or two things fell through the cracks - that's really not so bad
then why is this being analyzed so thoroughly

honestly, it doesn't have to be heated. i just didn't expect nearly THIS much negativity and i feel like these complaints are being made without much justification. so it wasn't perfect, but what tournament is? it was painless and good and i feel that i am entirely reasonable in defending these events

anyway i am kind of done talking about it i think, thanks for the feedback and i'm glad you guys enjoyed it

« Last Edit: August 26, 2009, 11:24:46 PM by nuggety »
 
August 26, 2009, 09:45:10 PM Read #74
ancsik
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Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

I agree with Keby, there's definitely no reason for this to get so heated.  At this point, the best thing is to look at what's being talked about and learn from it so whoever runs the next one doesn't get such a sharp response after the fact.

Expert-only rule: This seems to be standard elsewhere now and Amber's been going to tournaments out of state, but it definitely has no in-state precedent.  I personally disagree with the idea of blocking out hard mode and I probably wouldn't have entered had I known about the rule, but that's my fault for not reading the rules ahead of time (When the tournament was announced in June, I had assumed my leg wouldn't survive an ITG tournament so I never even looked at the thread) and everyone else's for not reading closely enough.  I will point out that the expert-only clause is sitting at the end of some other rule's line, no bold or anything, so it's understandable that people missed it.  Lesson to be learned: better formatting for the rules and print out a copy to bring day of.

Hard song slipping through: Mishap on the part of the organizers.  Yes, it happens.  No reason for everyone to dwell on that.  Saying it all worked out in the end isn't how large scale events handle rule enforcement mistakes, but 13 people is hardly large scale.  Lesson to be learned: the organizers need to either figure out what went wrong and avoid it next time or write a rule set with fewer things that they need to pay attention to.

Entering own tournament: Clearly not rigged, but it has been considered bad form because there's a lot to keep track of without playing yourself.  It is unfortunate that both organizers missed the last tournament (two months ago) due to international travel, but even before that there was Sakuracon's tournament (both organizers were there).  Claiming it's okay to enter because we haven't been having tournaments is a little on the moot side, but nothing severe in the conflict of interest department came of it, so whatever.  The organizers played each other one round and I doubt considerations were made as to how disputes would be handled between them.  Lesson to be learned: organizer either needs to not enter, or have assistants so things can't slip by.

Communication breakdown: Kevin did not know the expert-only rule and did tell me that.  There's no disputing it.  This doesn't mean major breakdowns or anything, but something fell through.  Hell, both organizers spent the prior month overseas in different countries and only one or two things fell through the cracks - that's really not so bad, but those mistakes were avoidable.  Lesson to be learned: print out rules for day of, all organizers go over rules close to day of (read, ask why things are included if it's unusual, whatever needs to be done).

Leg injury excluded, I did have a lot of fun.  We don't have enough of these, and it would be unfortunate for one of the few organizers we have to back out because of some bad feedback, but there were definitely lessons to be learned here as well.
 
August 26, 2009, 09:31:43 PM Read #73
xexy

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

well even tho i epic phailed at the tourney (going to a rave the night before, and only having been playing for 2 years with my all of 6-7 double stars under my belt) i hella enjoyed it and thought it was just fine

OH FUCKING NO A HARD SONG WUZ PICKED!?!?!?!!?!?! BECAUSE THAT TOALLY CHANGED THE WHOLE TOURNEYMENT!!!!!oNEONE!!!!ELEVEN!!!

the guy who picked it failed out the next match anyway so it doesnt matter at all jesus christ
 
August 26, 2009, 09:06:24 PM Read #72
Keby

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

Guys lets not get into an argument over it. It already happened, let it be.

I thought both tournaments went great. Neither of them were delayed (Which is a huge thing for me at least, I hate tournaments getting delayed like an hour or more for stupid reasons)
And overall I was pleased with it. Hell it's one of the few tournament I've been in were someone didn't pull a bitch-fit in front of everyone.
And so I say Thank you very much for doing this.
It's a shame that people can't just roll with it and have fun., but you can't please everyone in a DDR/ITG tourny.


團隊燃燒的龍
 
August 26, 2009, 07:02:11 PM Read #71
nuggety

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

Quote from: BLueSS on August 25, 2009, 09:26:07 PM
Well, the point of running the tournament, is to run it...    Tongue
no, the point of running a tournament is to have a tournament to play in. i'm sorry, i totally disagree. kevin birrell and i are both pretty good itg players, and we want incentive to play in a competitive environment. if no one else is going to create an event, why would we host something but not enter it?

i could see it being weird if there were an inclusion of custom songs or something that would give us a distinct advantage, but there was no such thing -- best two out of three, each person picks a song, and then a random if a tiebreaker is needed. maybe a little weird about the qualifier decision, but kevin and i kept that as simple as possible. we spoke exactly twice about it: once was deciding what the preliminary songs would be (which were basically posted immediately afterward), and again the day of the tournament in deciding what the actual song would be. so, everyone found out (including us) at the same time what the qualifiers would be.

to reemphasize: i feel this was a very level playing field where neither of us had any distinct advantage.

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Edit: I was IM'ing with Kevin, and thought I'd post a disclaimer: Neither post was suggesting that the rules rigged it for the organizers nor that they cheated, or anything along those lines. I wasn't even there, so I couldn't even say one way or the other. All I was saying was it's realllllllly a bad/suspicious image when it's first place = organizer's bf, second = organizer, third = organizer. It's not that it wasn't fair, the way it looks is just odd.
so then what is your point of saying this? kevin boddy is the best tournament player in probably the world. i am pretty solidly regarded as one of the best players around seattle. kevin birrell is very, very good too. can you say that it is an unexpected result? no.

furthermore, i am hearing complaints about other ridiculous things.

it clearly states in the itg rules that hard mode is not selectable. yes, one match consisted of a hard song. it didn't effect the tournament in any way as an end result, and for people to say that the organization was an entire failure because of this one instance, screw your head on straight. do not say that there were major communication breakdowns, that the organizers didn't know the rules, or that i was too distracted by my boyfriend being there, or whatever bullshit reasoning is being brought up. i'm sorry it happened. but it. happens.

if you're going to complain about a tournament, complain about ddr. there were many more problems with that. two instances of pad issues. (yeah, "so many more problems.")

i think the tournament went swimmingly. it was efficient, fun, and there were a number of really good and exciting matches. dare i say i was glad to see some people enjoying a competitive atmosphere, and i almost felt like there was a chance of renewing some semblance of a community that would enjoy tournaments and try to compete more amongst one another. i guess, at least up until these bullshit complaints i have been hearing.

you know what, i am kind of over it. i have heard many more complaints than i have words of appreciation. granted, i wasn't running a tournament so people would owe me gratitude, but it was a good tournament. ddr went really well. itg went completely fine. you're very welcome for the time that was spent hacking the machine, fixing up pads and the ram issues, drawing up rules, getting a flyer done and hammering out details between two locations. i'm not feeling inclined to do it again.
 
August 26, 2009, 01:31:14 PM Read #70
Keby

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

Quote from: Laura on August 26, 2009, 01:15:14 PM
You wanna talk close matches? My husband was right up there with ya, Kevin, until his knee went out! Clearly someone beat him up before the tournament and it was rigged... RITE GUYZ?

Oh there was plenty of close matches across the board.

OHYOURSORITE TEH TOURNY WAS RIGGEDZORED!

團隊燃燒的龍
 
August 26, 2009, 01:15:14 PM Read #69
SomeLauraChick

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

You wanna talk close matches? My husband was right up there with ya, Kevin, until his knee went out! Clearly someone beat him up before the tournament and it was rigged... RITE GUYZ?

Quote from: Suko on October 14, 2010, 07:52:05 AM
I would so look cuter than her if I could find a pair of UGGs that would fit me.
 
August 25, 2009, 11:22:53 PM Read #68
Keby

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

I can see what your saying Jon, but it's all legit.

and Kevin, I almost beat you! we are basically at the same skill level. GOD on that last song you beat by like AN EXCELLENT! WTF!?

團隊燃燒的龍
 
August 25, 2009, 09:26:07 PM Read #67
BLueSS

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

Well, the point of running the tournament, is to run it...    Tongue

Edit: I was IM'ing with Kevin, and thought I'd post a disclaimer: Neither post was suggesting that the rules rigged it for the organizers nor that they cheated, or anything along those lines. I wasn't even there, so I couldn't even say one way or the other. All I was saying was it's realllllllly a bad/suspicious image when it's first place = organizer's bf, second = organizer, third = organizer. It's not that it wasn't fair, the way it looks is just odd.

« Last Edit: August 25, 2009, 10:40:37 PM by BLueSS »
 
August 25, 2009, 09:12:53 PM Read #66
KevinDDR

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acm

I don't mean to be rude but I think it's pretty reasonable that the two players who hold almost half of the machine records placed first and second. Also makes sense that a player who hasn't played for two years and still holds the other half of the machine records placed fourth. As for me, I dunno. I'm pretty decent at the game still.

Quote from: The Wise Fool
thewisefool4953 (9:28:22 PM): you're like the music game player equivalent of some teen who goes out and gets pregnant and addicted to heroin
 
August 25, 2009, 09:08:08 PM Read #65
BLueSS

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

It always seems odd when the organizers rank high in a tournament they're running...
 
August 24, 2009, 08:38:21 PM Read #64
Angus
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Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

aite playa
 
August 24, 2009, 07:21:12 PM Read #63
Iori241


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Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

Quote from: KevinDDR on August 24, 2009, 05:39:39 PM
I should probably post the results!

1st. Lou Bega
i'm so glad you don't make music anymore
 
August 24, 2009, 05:39:39 PM Read #62
KevinDDR

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

I should probably post the results!

1st. Lou Bega (Kevin Boddy)
2nd. Amber Harner (flotastic/nuggetynugg)
3rd. Kevin Birrell (KevinDDR)
4th. Michael Anderson (mykl/uhh)

Quote from: The Wise Fool
thewisefool4953 (9:28:22 PM): you're like the music game player equivalent of some teen who goes out and gets pregnant and addicted to heroin
 
August 24, 2009, 02:40:49 PM Read #61
Keby

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

double post oh no!


Well I learned a nice lesson at the ITG tourny.

Raping stamina songs does NOT win tournaments.

團隊燃燒的龍
 
August 22, 2009, 09:01:25 PM Read #60
Keby

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

9 people total. Some peeps showed up later to watch.

fun fact: A third of the tournament was Kevin's Cheesy

團隊燃燒的龍
 
August 22, 2009, 06:50:33 PM Read #59
BLueSS

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

I wonder how many of the same people will be at tomorrow's tournament?

What was the overall/participant attendance?
 
August 22, 2009, 06:01:50 PM Read #58
KevinDDR

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acm

Not only that, it's 573 and 613 (yknow, 573 on a clock Tongue Also the max combo in PSMO) in a row!

Anyway, the results of the first tournament!

22 August 2009
Dance Dance Party Party!
Dance Dance Revolution Supernova Tournament Results:
1st. Kevin Boddy (MegaManX/Kevbo) (~$90, other stuff)
2nd. Suko (~$50, some other stuff)
3rd. Amber Harner (flotastic/nuggetynugg) (~$20, maybe other stuff? idr)
4th. Kevin Birrell (KevinDDR) (nothing...except an Initial D v4 flyer!!)

Today, we raffled off a bootleg DDR Extreme marquee (which I won) and a Golden Tee Live marquee (which ss13icker won).

It was good! Everyone come to tomorrow's ITG tournament! 11am! Acme! $15! $3 for mystery super cool prize raffle!

Quote from: The Wise Fool
thewisefool4953 (9:28:22 PM): you're like the music game player equivalent of some teen who goes out and gets pregnant and addicted to heroin
 
August 22, 2009, 12:32:29 PM Read #57
BLueSS

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

hahaha Tongue
 
August 22, 2009, 09:21:26 AM Read #56
ancsik
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Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

How unexpected, Kevin's phone number contains 573 as a substring.
 
August 22, 2009, 07:31:21 AM Read #55
KevinDDR

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acm

It's okay. The qualification deadline is 12:30 anyway.

Also, I usually don't do this, but if anyone needs or wants to contact me before the tournament or to tell me they're running a bit late, my number is 4257361352. Texts and calls are okay.

Quote from: The Wise Fool
thewisefool4953 (9:28:22 PM): you're like the music game player equivalent of some teen who goes out and gets pregnant and addicted to heroin
 
August 21, 2009, 09:42:55 PM Read #54
Suko

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

Keby and I will be there too. I've gotta pick him up on my way down from Lynnwood, and depending on trafifc, I may or may not be there exactly @ 11.

Please keep this in mind.

Arcades may have gone away, but their culture is not gone.
 
August 21, 2009, 11:42:48 AM Read #53
thechibiknight
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Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

I'll be there, but I'm not expecting to do well at all.  I'm still sore from working out yesterday...
I have a fantasy football draft at 1000 hours so I might be a little late, but I should be at Narrow's before registration ends at 1230...

« Last Edit: August 21, 2009, 01:43:19 PM by thechibiknight »
 
August 20, 2009, 09:36:09 AM Read #52
Suko

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

I'll probably go to the SN tourny. Though if I'm driving 1.5 hours down to Tacoma, this sh*t better be hype!

Arcades may have gone away, but their culture is not gone.
 
August 18, 2009, 08:20:27 PM Read #51
icker

Re: Dance Dance Party Party! DDRSN & ITG2 tournaments, 8/22-8/23 @ Narrows & Acme

I'll be at both, just letting y'all know.

Team PWD
 
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