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on: October 28, 2010, 08:15:50 AM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by BLueSS
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I was there last night for a while with Ancsik and Dr Z.

PIU is in the front, and there is NO LIGHTING near the machine, so all of the LEDs are blindingly bright in the dark corner. It got annoying after a short while.

Most of the doubles charts on PIU:Pro 2 are just as "good" as ITG 2 double charts. (For any double charts 8 and below)

And if you ever wanted to play any of the racing games, Sega Outrun 2 is by far the best of the racing games at Power Play.

PS: If anyone can beat my .1 score for reflex time on the punching game, I'll buy you a couple of PIU:Pro 2 sets. Tongue
 
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on: May 27, 2010, 04:16:37 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by stale2000
Relevance: 13.9%
The thing is though the whole itg/konami legal thing doesn't have anything to do with copyright law with regards to playing music in public.  Yes, I know that the reason why people think it is ok to hack itg machines is because of the whole ordeal and because they feel like they were wronged in some way.  Two wrongs don't make a right though, and playing copyrighted songs on an itg machine or a pump machine in public should be just as "bad".  But as you said, it isn't really enforced, and I don't think its that "bad".  

Yes, I am aware of the problems with convincing an arcade operator to let me install openitg.  Thats why I called it the hard way.  (although its probably just software hacking, not hardware)

The only possible relevance that the fact that Pump is still in production might have with regard to modifying a pump machine is that the company itself might have some sort of copyright power that protects there machines from being modified.  But people have been modifying them and nobody's cried fowl, so I doubt it.


Kevin:  I've been playing it quite a bit at powerplay (played about 90 rounds, as in songs, already), haven't seen anything special.  

Keby:  nononono, I was definitely NOT talking about the powerplay location.  Nor was I even talking about pump pro 2.  That would be stupid, as you pointed out.  I haven't even found a location yet, but ideally it would be one that nobody really uses anyway.  Powerplay is used a lot.    edit: hmm didn't notice the dots before, thanks!
 
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on: May 27, 2010, 03:58:45 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by KevinDDR
Relevance: 13.9%
Quote from: stale2000
What does a normal pump machine have than openitg doesn't (openitg has a pump mode, so its not just itg on a pump machine. That would be aweful!).  Whereas openitg has TONS of stuff that pump does not have. 


oooooooooooooooookay you must not play pump, discussion over
 
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on: May 27, 2010, 03:54:28 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by Gosha
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Well, the legalities revolving around Pump it Up still existing and being owned by its parent company and the whole ITG/Konami legal battle must just be flying in one ear and out the other.  Pump it Up is not In the Groove.

As I mentioned before about songs/copyright infringement, it isn't something that is heavily forced, but it is a deciding factor for an arcade operator.  There was a pretty big period of time before the ITG machine at Acme was converted to what it is today.

I know most arcade operators are not open to having some guy come in to hack hardware in their $8-$12,000 machine.
 
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on: May 27, 2010, 03:34:48 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by stale2000
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Isn't the Acme ITG machine in a public place?  You can't use the copyright infringment argument and say that hacking an ITG machine is ok but hacking a pump machine isn't.  Its the same thing when it comes to the copyright infringment and an arcade would get equally in trouble for both situations. 

Also, i was only posting beta feedback here because the thread said that I should do so. 
 
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on: May 27, 2010, 03:27:29 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by Gosha
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Again, none of the custom songs would be licensed for public use, that alone could get an arcade in a lot of trouble, even if it isn't really enforced.  Darklinks machine isn't in a public place as well, its in his house.

Plus this is kind of an insult to the devs of the game, since its still in Beta.

The reason most places hacked their ITG machines is because ITG software isn't being made anymore, so its kind of a way to keep interest in having the cabinets there.  Pump it Up games are still made frequently.

Some of the DEVs working on Pro 2 have worked on hacked ITG teams as well, so if you have any features you want to see, you should post on the PiU Pro forums about it.
 
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on: May 27, 2010, 03:25:52 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by stale2000
Relevance: 13.9%
Why?  Darklink did it, and his machine looks awesome.  Check it out:
My OpenITG Pump It Up Machine
 What does a normal pump machine have than openitg doesn't (openitg has a pump mode, so its not just itg on a pump machine. That would be aweful!).  Whereas openitg has TONS of stuff that pump does not have.  



On a completely seperate note, more beta feedback, I just came back from Powerplay today.  I been going there about every other day or so, around 1-3 when nobody else is around.  One thing thats been slightly getting on my nerves is that the machine doesn't tell you what round your on (or at least I don't think it does).  Sure, I know it isn't that hard to mentally keep track of what round your on, but if you play a bunch of games in a row sometimes you forget.  This is a problem because I like to play hard songs on the last round so that it doesn't matter if I fail.  

Also, I already let Jim know about this, but the left select arrow on the from of the machine for the left player is currently not working, so if you go down there you should probably play on the right side, unless this isn't a big deal for you.  

 
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on: May 26, 2010, 10:27:18 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by stale2000
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"That, and what's the point of buying new versions when you could just download all the songs on "pump it up pro 3" or whatever.

(protip: roxor only added that functionality to in the groove because konami acquired the entire itg game from them. if that hadn't happened, there would not have been an "r21")"



sigh....   I guess I'll just have to do this the hard way then.  (and by hard way I mean find a pump machine that nobody uses and convince the arcade to let me put openITG on it...)  
 
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on: May 26, 2010, 10:20:51 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by Davyn
Relevance: 13.8%
That, and what's the point of buying new versions when you could just download all the songs on "pump it up pro 3" or whatever.

(protip: roxor only added that functionality to in the groove because konami acquired the entire itg game from them. if that hadn't happened, there would not have been an "r21")
 
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on: April 07, 2010, 12:37:33 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by Suko
Relevance: 10.9%
Jim,

Someone over at Bemanistyle just pointed out that the Namco Cybertron arcades supposedly have an ITG2 dedicab for sale on their website for less than $5000. This is extremely cheap for this machine and I though that you might be interested in this.

http://namcoarcade.com/Game-Sales.asp?search=Video
Note: I didn't change the search parameters. Just click "Search for Games" at the bottom of the page.

30034     IN THE GROOVE 2     URV/CONV     $4,495.00     STERLING HEIGHT, MI     (630) 238-2200 Ext. 2318

Only thing that confuses me is that they have multiple In the Groove 2 games listed, most are only $1000! I assume that these are the upgrade kits or upgraded cabinets, but the one above is much more, but it also has the attribute CONV, which says that it means it's a converted cabinet. If you're interested, I would call and clarify what, exactly, this cabinet is.

They've also got DDR Extreme and SuperNova machines for sale, but the prices on those are pretty average.
 
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on: February 13, 2010, 11:14:50 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by Suko
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So Rain, Null and I all went to PowerPlay for some PiU today. We had an interesting guest show up to lay down some hip moves...G. None other than Chris Foy showed up to check out the latest PiU: Pro spot. We played a few rounds with the guy and had fun chatting with him.

It was pretty awesome getting to meet one of the more prominent guys on the ITG2 and PiU:Pro team.

Here's some videos taken with my cellphone's camera. Sorry about the poor quality, but I'll post some that Null took with his high end camera once we get'em uploaded.

Btw, he fuxing ROX at PiU:Pro! <--








Edit: The patch is working as is the encore pack. All is right in the arcade.
 
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on: January 22, 2010, 01:59:09 AM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by Davyn
Relevance: 4.6%
installation is the same as an itg patch btw
 
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on: January 20, 2010, 08:51:23 AM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by Suko
Relevance: 4.2%
I got to talk with Jim over the phone the other day regarding placement of my (our) ITG2 machine at Power Play. Long story short, they need to own every machine there, and they don't plan on participating in any revenue sharing deals.

That being said, Jim seemed incredibly knowledgeable and passionate about the arcade industry. I chatted with him for a while and made some suggestions that he investigate Ju Beat and Technika. Dunno if he will or not, but if he does that'll be awesome.

If you guys ever have a maintenance issue regarding the equipment at PP, he asked that I inform him about it. But he also didn't sound like he wanted me to spam him about every little thing, so....yeah. I guess post any significant maintenance related issues here and I'll try to inform him about it.
 
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on: October 28, 2009, 03:14:47 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by Laura
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I'll have to see what Jon thinks, but he's been talking to the management about the two of us running an air hockey tournament. Maybe while we're working those details out with them, we can bring your machine up, as well. ITG has the benefit of being an American game, not an import, so it looks more credible to a classy place like PP.

Heck, I wonder if we shouldn't just direct the staff at PP to this thread.
 
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on: October 28, 2009, 03:03:20 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by nekura
Relevance: 0.8%
It should be noted that even though as a policy I prefer Pump, I would play  the crap out of an R21 ITG machine if it were there, as would Tony. Having an arcade walking distance from my house is, of course, already awesome enough, but yeah... throw some ITG in there and HECK YES.
Agreed. I love Pump but more options never hurt! And it's nice to keep the adrenaline going when someone else is playing.
 
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on: October 28, 2009, 02:21:36 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by Suko
Relevance: 0.7%
I probably won't be a "regular" at Power Play. As such, if Laura or Jon start to get to know the staff, drop the suggestion if you feel the timing is right. Don't forget to stress that an ITG 2 dedicab is still the #1 most popular dance system in the US.

IMO our machine is in great shape and would look great in Power Play. I would buy brand new decal graphics for the whole machine and replace the USB ports (just to make certain they're new and work great). The machine will look as good as new.

Power Play might not be as far north as I'd like it to be, but if I could get some cash back from my machine and make it available to the public, then I don't mind it being in Bellevue.
 
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on: October 28, 2009, 01:08:32 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by Laura
Relevance: 0.7%
It should be noted that even though as a policy I prefer Pump, I would play  the crap out of an R21 ITG machine if it were there, as would Tony. Having an arcade walking distance from my house is, of course, already awesome enough, but yeah... throw some ITG in there and HECK YES.
 
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on: October 28, 2009, 12:08:35 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by Laura
Relevance: 0.7%
I had actually talked to Tony about asking if they would be interested in our Pop'n Music, but we both agreed the likelihood that they'd want something like that, as opposed to a nice, newer ITG is pretty low - the Pop'n has clearly been around the block, hanging out in Japanese arcades and whatnot.

It's looking more and more like I'm going to PP from about 6-9, so I hope to see some of you there!
 
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on: October 27, 2009, 05:13:08 PM  Top
Started by Gosha, Message by Laura
Relevance: 0.6%
To be honest, I'm pretty sure convincing them to install it would be easy if we got, say, Chris Foy or Kyle Ward to show up. "Hey, my name's in the credits, so this is okay, right?"

It's too bad they don't have ITG 2, or else half the people who use this site would be in the credits. Wink
 
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